Dowsing For Beginners
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Chat Transcript - April 20, 2002
Moderator: UniHOST
Guest: Diane Marcotte - Diane has been a dowser for many years and is currently a board member of the Canadian Society of Dowsers.
Diane: Hello…I’m Diane Marcotte here to talk about dowsing.
Diane: Dowsing is using a tool (usually a pendulum or rods) that allows us to gather information not directly available to our conscious mind. Because we are living in a physical world, we must, by necessity concentrate on certain data, to the exclusion of other data. As well as information coming externally we also have information coming to us internally ( from our Inner Self or Higher Self, God, Spirit Guides, etc. depending on your belief system) through what we usually term our Intuition.
Diane: Hello…I’m Diane Marcotte and we’ll be chatting about dowsing.
Doris: Would you please tell me what books you would recommend?
Diane: There are a number of good books on dowsing available.
There are 3 that I highly recommend.
Diane: Anyone Can Dowse for Better Health by Arthur Bailey is excellent - both for beginners and experienced dowsers. Another one is The Pendulum Bridge to Infinite Knowing by Dale Olson. It is geared more towards beginners. Walt Woods has a set available entitled Powers That Be. It includes a book, a pair of dowsing rods and a pendulum. The rods and pendulum are of an excellent quality. Walt Woods also wrote Letter to Robin which you can print off the Internet.
Doris: I have tried dowsing with a pendulum but it doesn’t seem to “”do”" anything. Would you recommend using an object that has special meaning to the person (eg. a ring) as the “”weight”"?
Diane: Hi Doris…I guess I’ll wait a few minutes to see if anyone is joining us.
Diane: No, I don’t believe that what a pendulum consists of is important.
Diane: But if you are having problems sometimes using a favourite object will help.
Pooky: Hi everyone
Diane: Hi Pooky!
Pooky: Is this the beginner’s dowser’s chat tonight?
Diane: Yes it is.
Diane: Dowsing is using a tool (usually a pendulum or rods) that allows us to gather information not directly available to our conscious mind. Because we are living in a physical world, we must, by necessity concentrate on certain data, to the exclusion of other data. As well as information coming in externally we also have information coming to us internally (from our Inner Self, Higher Self, God, Spirit Guides, etc. depending on your belief system) through what we usually term our Intuition.
Diane: Pooky, have you tried dowsing before?
Pooky: I’ve done a little bit with a pendulum over the last couple of weeks.
Pooky: My results have been inconsistent though.
Diane: That’s normal.
Diane: It takes quite a bit of practice to get accurate results consistently.
Pooky: I would like to be able to be more consistent? Is there any tips you can give me?
Diane: Have you been able to get your YES, NO and MAYBE responses OK?
Pooky: When I ask questions I already know the answers to yes!
Diane: Did you begin by asking your pendulum what direction it will move to indicate a YES answer?
Pooky: Yes, I asked it to move front and back for yes.
Diane: And is NO a sideways motion? What is your ready motion?
Pooky: Side to side for no, and counterclockwise for maybe.
Diane: What about you Doris?
Pooky: Ready seems to be just stopping in the centre.
Diane: To get back to your question about being more consistent…
Diane: You won’t get good results if you are dowsing when you are tired, out-of-sorts or just having trouble concentrating on your dowsing.
Doris: Sorry if I respond slowly, my computer keeps flipping to another page and I have to come back! To answer, no, it doesn’t really move at all.
Diane: Focusing too heavily on what the pendulum is doing also can stop you from getting accurate answers.
Pooky: The focusing could be part of it…maybe I just want to know the answers to some things too badly. lol
Diane: It might be beneficial to
Diane: Yes, you need to be in a state of relaxed concentration.
Diane: Easy to say but not easy to do! 
Pooky: Don’t I know it sometimes..lol
Diane: You want to be able to concentrate just on your dowsing so being alone, feeling energetic are important.
CandyHOST: sorry for the interruption Diane please go on
Diane: We were just talking about how hard it is to concentrate on your dowsing.
Doris: Pooky, I have the same as you, I believe … one tab “”Rooms”" and the other “”healing2″”
Diane: It is difficult to sort of stand back and and not be overly concerned about what your pendulum is doing.
CandyHOST: Pooky if yo go to the rooms tab, click on healing1 room and join, that should do it
Diane: I have those tabs too.
CandyHOST: Diane I have been using a pendulum for years and years
Diane: Perhaps I should wait a few minutes before continuing?
CandyHOST: no one else is coming over right Morri?
CandyHOST: so you can go on Diane
Diane: Great, thanks!
MorriganHOST: I’m sooo sorry diane..what’s your last name again/
MorriganHOST: ?
Diane: Does anyone have a specific question?
Diane: Marcotte
MorriganHOST: ty
Diane: yw
Pooky: What is the best type of pendulum…metal, crystal or…?
CandyHOST: after using pendulum for many years, I am now able to separate myself from the questions
Pooky: How do you separate Candy?
Diane: I believe anything works as a pendulum.
It is important not to impose any beliefs from others on yourself. And that includes what you hear from me tonight! LOL
CandyHOST: Pooky I take some deep breaths, then ask the answers to come from my Higher Self
MorriganHOST: LOL
CandyHOST: lol
Pooky: lol
Doris: I would like to dowse to try to find out if a homeless cat that I had been feeding is OK? She hasn’t been seen since October. Would holding a picture of her help with my dowsing?
Diane: Mainly I want to emphasize that dowsing is simple. Not only simple to learn but the mechanics of it are simple. There are no rules!
MorriganHOST: how did you get started dowsing Diane?
CandyHOST: I have always used something that I have worn or that was mine; or if some thing else, I then cleanse first
Diane: Doris…yes sometimes that helps. It helps to focus your thoughts.
Diane: It is called a “”witness’.
Diane: It is important though to realize that you don’t have to have a photo.
Pooky: Does the answer(s) come clearer when you have a witness?
Diane: It is all too easy to start believing that you need something (a photo, a lock of hair, etc.) to get results.
MorriganHOST: they are just a focusing tool though right?
Diane: About 6 years ago, Morrigan, I took a course on dowsing.
CandyHOST: that would be neat; never done that
Diane: It involved 3 Saturdays and a weekend field trip. It was great.
CandyHOST: I bet; it sounds like fun
MorriganHOST: maybe you could give us a brief intro on who you are and what dowsing is?? there is a dowsing society that you belong to right?
MorriganHOST: oops sorry I guess being late got me behind
Diane: No, Pooky, you don’t need a witness to get clear answers. If you decide to use a witness in the beginning that would be fine.
CandyHOST: I was wondering the same myself Morri
Diane: But once your dowsing starts giving you accurate results, I would stop using a witness.
Diane: Here’s a short bio…
MorriganHOST: ty
Pooky: I’ve only tried once with a witness, I will have to wait for the answer to that one though.
CandyHOST: I had found that at first, it was hard to get correct answers when you were involved emotionally to what you were asking
Pooky: That’s exactly what I’m finding out right now Candy!!lol
Diane: I retired a few years and now I’m quite involved with dowsing.
CandyHOST: Pooky you will get past that point; it took me years; so I connect to my Higher Self first
CandyHOST: Diane?
Diane: Yes, I belong to the Canadian Society of Dowsers and am on their Board.
MorriganHOST: who are they and what is their function Diane?
Pooky: I did.
Diane: We’re having our 15th annual Convention in Toronto in June. It is a nonprofit organization run entirely by volunteers.
MorriganHOST: wow sounds great!
Diane: I’m also a member of the American Society of Dowsers and I went to their convention last June in Vermont. They have many dowsing chapters across the US. Have any of you looked into visiting a chapter?
Pooky: Are you in Toronto, Diane?
MorriganHOST: why do you prefer dowsing to any other method of divination..like for instance, Tarot cards?
Diane: Yes, I live in Toronto.
CandyHOST: Diane do you recommend using a yes and no board?
Diane: I don’t know just why I’m drawn to dowsing…probably because it is so simple.
MorriganHOST: I’m all for that
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Doris: I am a neophyte dabbler at the moment so this my basic introduction to the subject
Pooky: Me too!
Diane: You don’t have to interpret the results like other forms of divination.
move your arm so that you can only see the pendulum peripherally. That way you’re not staring at it, willing it to move LOL
Pooky: I’ll have to give that one a try. Can our thoughts influence it?
Diane: While we’re waiting…yes Pooky your thoughts play a big role.
Pooky: There are times when I have a hard time to shut them off, maybe that is not the best time to use the pendulum.
MorriganHOST: could you explain the methodology to us beginners?
Diane: Could you explain please just what you mean by a Yes and No board.
CandyHOST: I have seen boards with ‘yes and no’ on them, I assumed it was only for ‘concentration’ purposes
Diane: Would you like to start with how to hold a pendulum?
MorriganHOST: please
Pooky: yes, please
Doris: Fine with me.
Diane: Oh…I think it best to determine a YES and NO response of your pendulum rather than having it move to the Yes or the NO on the board.
CandyHOST: I agree with that
Diane: You want to be able to use your pendulum at any time so the fewer props you need, the better.
MorriganHOST: agree
Diane: You want the pendulum to be able to swing easily.
Diane: Start by holding the string (between your thumb and index finger) close to the weight on the end.
While swinging the pendulum back and forth slowly let out the string. After you have let out an inch or 2, swing the pendulum in a clockwise direction. You are searching for the spot where your pendulum moves freely and doesn’t require much conscious movement from you. Usually this is between 2 1/2 and 3 1/2 inches. Any longer and the pendulum’s movement isn’t as defined…that is, it is harder to see how it is moving. It is best not to restrict your arm by leaning on anything. Although you can rest your arm against your body.
Diane: Would you like to know how to get a YES, NO and MAYBE response for those who haven’t yet?
MorriganHOST: please
Diane: There are 2 ways to go about this - either by asking the pendulum to show you your YES movement OR by “”programming”" it to swing in a way you have chosen.
MorriganHOST: how would you go about “”programming”" it?
Diane: For those of you who have already determined your various swings please don’t change them if they differ from someone else’s method. Although I said you program the pendulum you’re really programming yourself!
Diane:
Diane: I want to digress a moment here… In the early 1900s many dowsers believed that there were emanations coming off the subject they were searching for. (water, oil, minerals, etc.)They believed these emanations made the rod(s) or pendulum move, i.e., it was an external force that moved the pendulum. They went to great extents to use ‘witnesses’ either attached to their dowsing instrument or held in their other hand. It was believed that “”like attracts like”" and that was why the rod moved. Nowadays dowsers usually subscribe to the school of thought that it is our intent expressed through a question, that brings forth the movement of the dowsing instrument. That is, it is an internal force. The way it probably works (and no one can say for sure at this point) is that the answer, coming in through our intuition, causes the brain to initiate a minute response that is carried to the muscles of the arm and hand. The result being that the dowsing instrument is physically moved by an unconscious movement of the hand. Sorry to be so long-winded there but I thought I better explain. So, back to getting a response…
MorriganHOST: it is a good explanation
Diane: By programming yourself you are telling yourself that you want the pendulum to move in a certain fashion.
Doris: Your explanation was very clear, thanks!
Diane: Usually a clockwise movement for YES, a counter clockwise movement for NO and and a diagonally 45 degree swing for a MAYBE or NEUTRAL position. But you could just as easily have the reverse. You’ll probably want another system for YES and NO - say a horizontal swing back and forth for YES. And a vertical back and forth swing for NO. So you start by saying (probably out loud for more emphasis) “”Pendulum, I want you to swing in a …..manner for a YES response.”" Start by showing the pendulum what you mean
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MorriganHOST:
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Diane: Then repeat for your NO. Is anyone practicing this now and having any trouble?
Diane:
Pooky: no
MorriganHOST: we used to use this method for determining the sex of an unborn baby many years ago…instead of yes and no it was girl or boy
Pooky: I mean no, not having problems.
Doris: Do you want us to use the pendulum right now?
Diane: I remember seeing that done….with a needle on a thread over the Mum to be’s protruding abdomen.
MorriganHOST: yes
Diane: If you have one, sure please try it.
Doris: Ok.
Diane: When starting a dowsing session it is a good idea to start the pendulum moving.
* Pooky MOTIONS/happy.gif Start moving the pendulum how?
Diane: If you wait for it to start moving it will take a bit longer. Just don’t start by swinging it in a YES or NO direction. Try choosing your READY swing. Off on any angle is fine. It is important to have a clear, concise question in mind before you start. Otherwise your pendulum may move erratically and you don’t know what it means.
Pooky: I’ve had that happen to me when I’m tired.
Diane: It is probably responding (through your involuntary muscle movement) to any incoming messages from your intuition.
Diane: In fact, it is a good sign. It is probably telling you it’s time to stop. LOL
Doris: I programmed the responses and got it swinging (”"ready”") and as soon as I asked the question it came to an abrupt stop! Maybe I am afraid of the answer and am blocking it?
Diane: Do any of you have a problem sometimes in that the pendulum refuses to move?
Doris: Wow, you read my mind!!
Pooky: Once in the two weeks I’ve been using.
Diane: You are probably concentrating on watching the pendulum too much.
Doris: I’ll try your peripheral suggestion from earlier.
Diane: Your goal is to enjoy yourself and not to take it all too seriously.
Diane: But I know it is hard because the answer is important to you or you wouldn’t be asking it!
MorriganHOST: how much can the pendulum be influenced by our desires?
Diane: One thing you can do is to write YES on one piece of paper and NO on another.
Turn them over and shuffle them so you don’t know which is which. It can definitely be influenced by your desires. Especially if the question is very personal or emotional.
CandyHOST: after a while though you can get beyond that though right?
Diane: That’s also a good time to use the turned over papers. What you do is hold the pendulum over 1 piece of paper and ask…
MorriganHOST: sounds very logical to me
Diane: “”Is the answer to my question written on this piece of paper?”"
Diane: If you get a YES response then turn over the paper and accept whatever is written on it as the correct answer.
Doris: I like that.
Diane: If you get a NO, repeat over the other piece of paper.
CandyHOST: cool, a new trick
Diane: If you get another NO it may be that your question needs to be rephrased.
Diane: Or, you may want to stop for awhile and try again later. * CandyHOST is going to ‘play’ tonight
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Diane: Yes, I like this method…especially when you want the answer to be a certain response.
MorriganHOST: yes I guess that’s how I wanted my question phrased lol
Diane: It stops you from influencing the swing of the pendulum.
Diane: Please don’t get discouraged when you’re having any problems.
Diane: It takes a lot of practice before you get confident in your abilities.
CandyHOST: or panic and call your ‘guru’ lol
Diane: lol
Doris: lol
MorriganHOST: lol
Diane: Would anyone like an example of a question that could be worded better?
MorriganHOST: please
Pooky: please
Diane: Say you wanted to know whether you should take Vitamin D. You might then ask “”Will it be beneficial for me to take Vitamin D?”" You get a positive response. But maybe you shouldn’t run out and buy some Vitamin D…If you ask “”Do I have a deficiency in Vitamin D?”" you would get a NO (in this example)
MorriganHOST: makes sense
Diane: So although it would be beneficial to take it you don’t really need it.
CandyHOST: wording is everything
Diane: Here’s where using a chart comes in handy.
MorriganHOST: please explain?
CandyHOST: what kind of chart?
Diane: I have an article published on About… with an example of a chart.
Diane: It is simply a half circle…
MorriganHOST: do you have the url handy?
Diane: brb
Diane: http://healing.about.com/library/uc_dowsing_0202.htm
MorriganHOST: thank you Diane
CandyHOST: thanks Diane
Pooky: Thanks Diane
Doris: I am afraid I have to log-off now. I’ve really enjoyed this introduction to beginners and I will persevere with my petulant pendulum. Thanks Diane. Bye everyone.
Diane: It is a bit hard to explain in words…can you all flip to the article?
CandyHOST: love and light Doris, come back soon
MorriganHOST: may you walk in balance, beauty and love doris..thanks for coming by
Doris: Thanks and love , light, & laughter to you all.
Diane: Using the chart you would ask “”Please indicate on a percentage scale how important it is that I take Vitamin D.”"
Diane: Based on this example you would get a low percentage.
Pooky: I think I’ve seen these in some books with different topics on them.
CandyHOST: so have I Pooky
Diane: So you may want to hand-draw a little chart and take it on your next trip to the health food store. Along with your pendulum, that is.
Pooky: It goes where I go.
Diane: Yes, there are a few books on dowsing that have charts. A good one is Pendulum Charts by Dale Olson. * CandyHOST MOTIONS/playful.gif yes mine too
Diane: His charts are laminated so they hold up well. And the book is spiral bound so it lays flat.
Diane: Well…I think we covered a lot… any questions?
CandyHOST: Sorry I am going to have to bow out, my granddaughter will be here soon and I will have to help her get to bed. Diane this was so interesting, thanks so very much for your time.
MorriganHOST: I have one from UniHOST
Diane: Bye…thanks for your input!
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: how would you determine length of time or distance
Diane: For time or distance…
Diane: You can ask in chunks. Say you wanted to know how deep to drill a well…
Diane: You would begin by saying “”Is the water source located at more than 100 feet?”"
Diane: If yes…then “”…at more than 200 feet?’ If yes …then “”…at 300 feet:”" If no…then”"…at more than 250 feet?”" If Yes…then”"at more than 275 feet?’ …265″” “”…260″” and so on until you get the exact figure.
MorriganHOST: I have uni on im btw..she is very disappointed that she couldn’t get in and I am transcribing to her as we go.
UniLady says: thank you for stating my feelings to the room
MorriganHOST: again it makes perfect sense to me
Pooky: That’s the best thing about this, it is straightforward!
Diane: You would do the same for time…just keep asking if more than…. until you get a NO. Then backtrack.
MorriganHOST: Diane, do you have a web site that you would like to share with us?
Diane: That was a bit disjointed…did I make any sense? LOL
Pooky: perfect sense.
MorriganHOST: perfect sense to me
Diane: Yes I do. It is The Healing Spectrum at www.thehealingspectrum.com
Pooky: ty, I’ll be checking it out.
MorriganHOST: this has been most informative and I would like to thank you soo much for sharing your knowledge with us
Diane: I plan to completely revamp my site one of these days. I’m also very interested in the Seth books by Jane Roberts and want to devote some pages of my site to that. There’s never enough time to do everything, eh?
MorriganHOST: lol nope
Pooky: Have you read Kryon books?
Diane: Thank you..you are very welcome. If anyone has any further questions please feel free to email me at diane.marcotte@cogeco.ca
Pooky: ty
MorriganHOST: welcome to healing/newage special dowsing chat
GloryGirl: Hi everyone!!
Diane: No I haven’t…I don’t think I’ve heard of them.
Pooky: Hi GloryGirl
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: thank you so very much Diane and so sorry I could not make it in the room personally, thank you so much morri for transcribing for me (((((((((((Diane Morri)))))))))))))))))) been very informative
Diane: Hi GloryGirl!
GloryGirl: So what are we talking about?
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: I hope that you may join us again for another chat on L rods and Y rods
Diane: Morri….how do I go about getting a transcript of this chat please.
MorriganHOST: I will ask lila to publish one in the archives diane
Pooky: Using pendulums GloryGirl.
Diane: Yes, please tell UniLady I would be happy to do one on dowsing rods.
Diane: Many thanks.
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: blessings glorygirl welcome
GloryGirl: Oh! I haven’t had luck programing mine. What’s wrong?
GloryGirl: Thank you Morri Host
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: wonderful and thank you for joining us this evening
Diane: GloryGirl…I’m afraid you’ve come in just as we are winding down.
Diane: You may find your answer in the transcript of this chat.
GloryGirl: Oh that’s ok.. another time. My friend Pooky is here.
MorriganHOST: sorry I am so slow glory girl..i am transcribing back and forth for uniHOST
Diane: feel free to email me.
Diane: Thanks to you all for giving me this opportunity!
GloryGirl: Ty for the offer
MorriganHOST: thank you so very much for coming tonight Diane!
Diane: It’s 11:15 pm my time and I guess it is bedtime.
Pooky: ty Diane
MorriganHOST: again I apologize for the confusion over the room location
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Diane: I’ll sign off known hope you I didn’t overload you all…sometimes I don’t know when to stop LOL
MorriganHOST: no it was wonderful Diane!
MorriganHOST: may you walk in balance, beauty and love Diane
Diane: Thank you…the same to you.
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: blessings much love and light ((((((((((Diane))))))))) thank you again so very much for coming
Diane: (((((((All of you))))))))
MorriganHOST: (((((((((((((Diane)))))))))
Diane: Bye Pooky….Bye GloryGirl….Bye morri…..
MorriganHOST: ty for coming tonight Pooky and Glory Girl..afraid I’m off to bed as well
MorriganHOST: bright blessings to both of you
MorriganHOST: UniLady says: blessings much love and light pooky and glory have a great night
MorriganHOST: night
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